The National Transport Authority has revised its planned changes for bus services around Dún Laoghaire.  This follows a public consultation during which concerns were raised about areas such as Killiney that would be left without a service.

I wrote about this in July when the changes were first suggested

I met with the NTA and later with Dublin Bus to discuss the concerns that people had raised with me about these changes.

So a compromise plan has emerged with less severe cuts than originally planned and with some of the route straightening maintained. The major changes since July are that:

  • Sallynoggin will keep two buses per hour ( 7a) that continue to St Vincent’s Hospital and into the city centre. Two more buses per hour (7) will travel via Sallyglen Road.
  • Killiney village and Ballinclea will keep an hourly 59 bus to Dún Laoghaire via Dalkey.
  • The 111 will not be withdrawn
  • The 45A will keep its original route and timetable via Upper Sallynoggin Road
  • Cherrywood will be served by 3 buses per hour
  • The 7 bus will use the Blackrock bypass for inbound journeys, while the 7A will continue to use the village route.

The full list of changes in bus route order is:

  • 7 from Cherrywood to Mountjoy Square via Sallyglen Road and Blackrock bypass every half hour
  • 7A from Loughlinstown Park to Mountjoy Square via Sallynoggin every half hour
  • 7B unchanged route – ‘minor timetable change’
  • 8  this route will be abolished
  • 45A from Dún Laoghaire to Shankill is unchanged
  • 59 from Dún Laoghaire to Druid’s Chair via Dalkey and Killiney Towers every hour
  • 63 from Dún Laoghaire to Kiltiernan via Pottery Road and Johnstown Road
  • 111 from Dalkey to Cherrywood via York Rd, Sallynoggin and Loughlinstown hospital every hour

I have uploaded a copy of the revised draft plan for you here:

Dublin Bus revised route changes for Dun Laoghaire

Thanks to everyone who contacted me about these changes.

Latest changes proposed for bus routes around Dún Laoghaire

3 thoughts on “Latest changes proposed for bus routes around Dún Laoghaire

  • January 29, 2016 at 1:37 pm

    Thank you for posting the revised route changes. I have taken the number 8 into town from Dalkey, on principle, while I still can! The “public consultation” was underwhelming – it passed me by entirely. It remains the case that the bus services around Dalkey /Killiney are so infrequent that they are doomed to fail. And the route options (e.g. how can I get from Dalkey to Deans Grange by bus? Hmmmm???) are complicated and you have to be a real transport nerd like me to get to grips with them.

  • February 14, 2016 at 12:41 am

    Hi Danielle,

    I completely agree with you. I’ve always thought that the bus service around the Dalkey/Killiney area has been infrequent. Considering the fact that the area is incredibly car dependent, it is indicative of a latent or undiscovered demand for bus services.

    I will second the motion of a lack of a service to Deansgrange. In fact, I think that a proper all day service linking the Dalkey/Killiney area to the likes of Deansgrange, Stillorgan, UCD and Donnybrook is badly needed. Perhaps, every 30 minutes/hourly Monday to Saturday and hourly to 90 minutely on a Sunday would suffice. Perhaps, the 7D and 8 could be merged for this purpose. After all, the 8 pretty much duplicates the DART’s purpose from Monkstown on-wards. The reroute/merge could serve to augment the level of service on Monkstown Avenue as well as the Monkstown Ringroad.

    Next, there is the issue of getting up to the likes of Dundrum which, by public transport requires a DART to Dun Laoghaire and a very indirect 75 taking at least 55 minutes. Meanwhile, by car, the journey is only 15 to 20 minutes. There needs to be a bus to Sandyford from the Dalkey/Killiney area to connect in with the Green Luas Line. That way, when people alight for the Luas, there is only a 5 minute tram ride to one of Ireland’s largest shopping districts. On a broader scale, the same bus could continue on to Tallaght and then Liffey Valley via Clondalkin to make it an orbital service. However, between Sandyford and Tallaght, it could take the M50 to speed things up.

    While the planned 111 from Dalkey to Bride’s Glen Luas Stop is essentially a link to the Green Luas Line, the proposed routing is nowhere near as direct as the previously proposed 59 reroute. Effectively, it is a v-shaped commute which goes northbound to Dun Laoghaire and then turns back on itself via Sallynoggin and Ballybrack before doing loops around Loughlinstown Drive and Loughlinstown Hospital and finally arriving at Bride’s Glen Luas Stop. Either-way, it isn’t exactly conducive in providing an attractive alternative to the car.

    I think reliability, directness and consequently speed for public transport are crucial factors in dissuading existing and future (would-be) car users. Sadly, the bad co-ordination and lack of common sense in the current operation of Dublin’s public transport system never-mind that in Dalkey/Killiney will result in continued car dependence.

    For the region of Dalkey/Killiney, the tight nature of the infrastructure along key arterial routes doesn’t lend itself to even moderate increases in frequency of bus services. At a modest 30-40 minutely frequency, I still see buses pulling into the mouth of side roads (on Barnhill Road) to allow oncoming buses to pass. With the Dalkey/Killiney 703 Aircoach Service, cars actually mount the pavement of Dalkey Avenue to avoid head on collisions.

    In any case, the infrastructure in the area will need to have a moderate to radical revisit to be permeable for buses and other larger vehicles. To put it another way, the main arterial roads in Dalkey/Killiney will need to be future proofed for larger vehicles in general. Such vehicles are common place in most towns/suburbs in Dublin and nationwide. However, much of these infrastructural improvements would be confined to Dalkey Avenue, Barnhill Road and a select few areas adjacent to the DART line as the other roads do contribute to the region’s character and so should be retained.

    To cut a long story short, I do think the Dalkey/Killiney area needs to play a far more prominent role in reducing car use in favor of public transport.

  • August 20, 2016 at 9:35 am

    I just have a few questions about the proposals. Firstly, will the 111 go up York Road, keep going up to Bakers Corner, turn left onto Rochestown Avenue, turn left onto Sallynoggin Road and turn right onto Pearse Street and continue normal route? Or will it go as far as Mountown Road Lower and turn left onto Glenegeary Road Upper and back onto normal route?.

    Will the 59 be less frequent because you said it would go every hour and at the moment it goes every 40mins Monday-Saturday and 80-90mins Sunday.

    Will the last 111 be later than 18:00 ? And will the 111 now serve on Saturdays and Sundays?

    Since the 7 and the 7a go every half hour (example: both go at 16:00 16:30 17:00) and the 111 goes every hour (example: 16:00 17:00) will the 7, 7a, and 111 be together as far as the Graduate Roundabout?

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